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Old 22-11-2004, 20:44   #1
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Default AA landet for tidlig ......

Denne gangen gikk det heldigvis bra ...

http://www.team4news.com/Global/story.asp?S=2598166

AA begynner aa faa en del paa samvittigheten ...

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Old 22-11-2004, 20:47   #2
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"(...)when the plane landed about one-thousand feet short of a runway yesterday."

Det var jo lovlig tidlig og det...
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Old 22-11-2004, 21:25   #3
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Noen som finner bilde av dette?
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Old 22-11-2004, 22:45   #4
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Metar fra den tiden:
KDEN 211727Z 31010KT 1/16SM R35L/3000VP6000FT FZFG OVC001 M03/M04 A3014 RMK AO2 TWR VIS 1/4

Rimelig dårlig sikt ja
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Old 22-11-2004, 22:54   #5
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Enda en "ripe i lakken" for AA. Det har jo ikke gått mange ukene siden ulykken i Little Rock heller (også MD-80).
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Old 22-11-2004, 23:04   #6
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Enda en "ripe i lakken" for AA. Det har jo ikke gått mange ukene siden ulykken i Little Rock heller (også MD-80).
Er det denne du tenker paa ..?? Det var Pinnacle (NW Airlink). Men AA hadde en MD80-ulykke der i 1999.

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Old 23-11-2004, 11:17   #7
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Himmel... Det skulle stå "årene" og ikke "ukene"...........
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Old 23-11-2004, 16:44   #8
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Men... Ingen bilder av fuglen i landingslysene???
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Old 24-11-2004, 14:17   #9
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Nei, ingen bilder. Men NTSB har laget en preliminaer rapport ...

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20041122X01849&key=1

Kom ogsaa over en eldre, relevant rapport ... AA's cockpitprosedyrer kan tydeligvis forbedres ..

http://www.ntsb.gov/Pressrel/1996/961114.htm
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Nok ett godt ekesmpel på at stabelized approach konseptet (1000ft og 500ft etc) faktisk er smart!

Å ikke ha GS før i 500-600 føtter tør jeg driste meg til å kalle piss poor airmanship!

CRM i denne saken her må vel ha brutt sammen på ett tidlig stadie.

(Ikke for at kollegaen i Denver akkurat har gjort noen strålende jobb heller.....)
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.. og siden vi er inne paa AA ... her er en rapport fra da de landet paa en taxiway i SEA ...
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20030327X00405&key=1

Southwest gjorde nesten det samme .. de saa X'en ...
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20040311X00316&key=1

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