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Old 06-03-2008, 18:22   #1
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Southwest Manglende sjekker hos Southwest

Seiler opp til en frisk skandale hos Southwest. Enkelte maskiner floey i opptil 30 maaneder etter at obligatoriske sjekker skulle vaert gjennomfoert. Og FAA visste om det.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/03/06...nes/index.html

Documents submitted by FAA inspectors to congressional investigators allege the airline flew at least 117 of its planes in violation of mandatory safety checks. In some cases, the documents say, the planes flew for 30 months after government inspection deadlines had passed and should have been grounded until the inspections could be completed.

The planes were "not airworthy," according to congressional air safety investigators.


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Old 06-03-2008, 20:19   #2
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Lyder ikke så godt....Går jo ud over SWA image.....Nør man nu ved hvor nemt det er at anlægge sag i USA, varer det vel ikke længe før det første sagsanlæg kommer....En og andet passagerer vil vel komme frem og sige,at deres live har været i fare...Det er selvfølgelig et spørgsmål om bevis førelse, men en og andet smart advokat kan jo nok fise det
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Old 07-03-2008, 04:01   #3
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Artikkelen er oppdatert ...

FAA initiates action to seek $10.2 million penalty from Southwest


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Old 07-03-2008, 05:07   #4
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Ikke rart de går med overskudd... Dette var skuffende - trodde Southwest var bedre enn dette.
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Old 07-03-2008, 07:10   #5
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Boeing is leaping to the defense of its biggest customer, issuing a statement saying it agreed with Southwest Airlines’ plan to continue flying 46 older 737s that hadn’t been inspected for specific fatigue cracks. “In Boeing's opinion, the safety of the Southwest fleet was not compromised,” Boeing said in a statement released late Thursday, a day after the FAA proposed fines of $10.2 million against the airline. $10 million of that fine is to be levied for 1,451 flights conducted on the 46 737-300s after Southwest blew the whistle on itself for not carrying out the fatigue crack inspections during the previous year. After discovering the lapse in inspections and reporting it to the FAA, the airline re-inspected the aircraft and found six with small cracks, which were repaired. However, the aircraft remained in service during the 10 days it took to inspect them and that’s what the FAA is so cranky about. "The FAA is taking action against Southwest Airlines for a failing to follow rules that are designed to protect passengers and crew," said Nick Sabatini, the agency's associate administrator for safety. "We expect the airline industry to fully comply with all FAA directives and take corrective action."

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Old 07-03-2008, 12:27   #6
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Heisann!

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Dette var skuffende - trodde Southwest var bedre enn dette.
Ikke les for mye i dette da slike ting er ofte sterkt overdrevet. For de/dere som jobber med teknisk ettersyn av fly vet at det er hundrevis av forskjellige rutine sjekker som skal foretas, noen er lettere å holde styr på, men mange inspeksjoner er dervet av forskjellig konfigurasjon, serie nummer, tidligere inspeksjoner, ofte drevet av evaluering osv. og ikke alltid like lett å holde styr på...

Dette er selvfølgelig ikke noen unnskyldning, men jeg tviler på at noen fly... eller passasjerer var i fare...

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Old 10-03-2008, 11:40   #7
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Her er en oppdatering paa dette. Som jeg nevnte ovenfor saa kan slike ting skje og er ikke noedvendigvis et tegn paa daarlig vedlikehold. Det som ogsaa er interessant er at Southwest rapporterte dette til FAA via en Self Disclosure, og tydligvis ogsaa hadde informert FAA og Boeing de ville fortsette aa fly noen dager, noe som ikke er urimelig, og FAA snur paa dette med en bot...

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Monday March 10, 2008

Southwest Airlines claimed that both Boeing and US FAA approved its continued operation of 46 737 Classics for nine days in March 2007 even though the aircraft had not undergone required inspections, expressing dismay at the size of the agency's proposed fine for alleged safety lapses.

FAA last week proposed a record $10.2 million civil penalty against the LCC for "deliberate violations" of an agency airworthiness directive, alleging that it repeatedly operated 46 737 Classics that did not undergo inspections to detect fuselage skin fatigue cracking as mandated in 2004 (ATWOnline, March 7).

"We've got a 37-year history of very safe operations, one of the safest operations in the world," SWA CEO Gary Kelly said in comments e-mailed to reporters. "We're disappointed, obviously, with the fine. It is unprecedented and we think it is unfair."

The airline contacted FAA on March 15, 2007, to disclose that it had been operating the aircraft without conducting the required inspections. Kelly blamed the oversight on "a gap in our documentation. We voluntarily reported that." FAA is proposing to fine SWA just $200,000 for that lapse, crediting it for self-disclosure.

But it is proposing an additional $10 million penalty for continuing to fly the 46 aircraft through March 23 without conducting the inspections, saying that the carrier knew it was noncompliant yet operated an additional 1,451 flights over nine days.

SWA said that when it made its voluntary disclosure on March 15, it developed a "10-day compliance plan" in which it would continue to operate the aircraft "for up to 10 days until the airplanes could be reinspected." It said it consulted Boeing and that the manufacturer found the plan "technically valid." Boeing said in a statement last week that "the safety of the Southwest fleet was not compromised."

Kelly said the airline believed FAA approved the plan. "Our interpretation of the guidance that we got from the FAA at the time was that we were in compliance with all laws and regulations," he said. "I think the FAA has a different view of that today."

SWA acknowledges that it found "small cracking" on six of the 46 fuselages during inspections. "With respect to those cracks. . .the Boeing Company said that at no time were those cracks unsafe," Kelly said.


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Old 11-03-2008, 14:02   #8
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Nå er det vel også sagt at dette er ting som går tilbake til minst 2003. Blant annet er det nevnt at det har vært tette bånd mellom FAA og vedlikeholds sjefer i Southwest, noe som har ført til lempelige kontroller. Er velk ikke helt sikker på at dette er noe som en skal avfeie sånn helt uten videre. Det er vel ikke helt uten grunn at flere ledende personer hos FAA som hadde ansvaret for Southwest har blitt omplassert.

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Old 11-03-2008, 14:22   #9
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Nå er det vel også sagt at dette er ting som går tilbake til minst 2003. Blant annet er det nevnt at det har vært tette bånd mellom FAA og vedlikeholds sjefer i Southwest, noe som har ført til lempelige kontroller. Er velk ikke helt sikker på at dette er noe som en skal avfeie sånn helt uten videre. Det er vel ikke helt uten grunn at flere ledende personer hos FAA som hadde ansvaret for Southwest har blitt omplassert.
Disse tette båndene mellom selskaper/produsenter og FAA er jo dessverre ikke noe nytt. Mener jeg leste for noen år siden om en kvinnelig sjef i FAA som prøvde å ta opp dette og møtte massiv motstand og mobbetilstander.
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Old 11-03-2008, 15:05   #10
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Disse tette båndene mellom selskaper/produsenter og FAA er jo dessverre ikke noe nytt. Mener jeg leste for noen år siden om en kvinnelig sjef i FAA som prøvde å ta opp dette og møtte massiv motstand og mobbetilstander.
Den episoden du tenker paa skjedde her i Seattle hos Alaska Airlines FOER AS261. Hun paapekte en mengde av de problemene som foerte til AS261 sin skjebne, og som takk ble hun flyttet til midtvesten et sted, en klar degradering.
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Old 11-03-2008, 15:50   #11
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Den episoden du tenker paa skjedde her i Seattle hos Alaska Airlines FOER AS261. Hun paapekte en mengde av de problemene som foerte til AS261 sin skjebne, og som takk ble hun flyttet til midtvesten et sted, en klar degradering.
Det var det ja. Takk!
Det er vel en like skitten bransje som alle andre dessverre.
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Det var visst mer alvorlig enn det først antatt. Southwest har groundet alle 41 -300...

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Old 13-03-2008, 08:39   #13
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Shait! Det blir mange sinte pax det!!
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Old 19-03-2008, 02:07   #14
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.. og naa har man funnet ut at man skal se om Southwest kanskje ikke var den eneste ten helt rent mel i posen ... ???

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/18/air.safety/index.html

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Old 19-03-2008, 02:20   #15
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Houston:

Dersom det er noen som sover godt om natta er det deg, Dag....
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Old 19-03-2008, 03:06   #17
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Uten oss nordmenn til aa passe paa, hadde det vel gaatt til hel..... .... hehe

Vi faar se hvordan de 'andre' kommer ut av det.
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Og historien fortsetter.
Southwest har vistnok skjult de manglende sjekkene ved å presse FAA til å holde inspektører unna.

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Southwest Airlines Safety Inspection Training Video

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Den der var verdt en god latter...
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