Flyprat


Go Back   Flyprat > Flyforum
Register Cookies FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 19-12-2005, 22:36   #1
Savipix
ScanFlyer Rusty
 
Savipix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,477
Default 12 döda i flygolycka

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/19/miami.crash.ap/index.html


Seaplane crashes off Miami Beach
Rescue crews search waters after propeller craft goes down


Miami (Florida)
Air and Space Accidents
Airlines
or Create Your Own
Manage Alerts | What Is This? MIAMI BEACH, Florida (AP) -- A seaplane carrying at least 16 people crashed off Miami Beach within sight of the city's high-rises Monday, killing at least 12 of those aboard, authorities said.

Scuba divers and rescuers in speedboats struggled to reach the victims.

Because of witness reports of an explosion before the propeller-driven plane went down, the FBI sent agents to assist in the investigation, but there was no immediate indication of terrorism or sabotage, said Judy Orihuela, spokeswoman for the FBI's Miami field office.

"It's too soon to say whether we are going to get involved," Orihuela said. "We're just going to check it out."

The Chalk's Ocean Airways plane went down around 2:30 p.m. in a channel used by cruise ships. The Coast Guard said it was carrying 14 passengers and two crew members, while the local Fire Department said 17 passengers and two crew members were aboard.

Coast Guard Lt. Cmdr. Chris O'Neil said at least six bodies were recovered.

Javier Otero, Miami Beach Fire Department support services chief, said there were survivors, but it was not immediately clear how many.

"We're still trying to get people out of the water," Otero said.

Law enforcement officers searched for victims via boats and helicopters and were joined by others in private boats, on Jet Skis and on surfboards.

A witness, Frank Amadeo, told WSVN-TV that he saw a huge explosion in the sky and the plane fall behind a condominium tower on Biscayne Bay in Miami Beach.

The Coast Guard said the cause of the crash was not immediately known, and it could not confirm whether there had been an explosion. The National Transportation Safety Board said it will investigate.

Otero said the plane was one that regularly flies to and from the Bahamas, but he did not immediately know whether the aircraft was incoming or outgoing.

TV helicopter footage showed debris in Government Cut, the channel that ships take past South Beach into the Port of Miami.

Chalk's Ocean Airways was founded in 1919. Its floating planes take off on the water. Chalk's aircraft have been featured in TV shows such as "Miami Vice."

Founded by Arthur "Pappy" Chalk, the airline thrived during Prohibition, taking bootleggers, their customers and customs agents to Bimini.

One of its planes was hijacked to Cuba in 1974 and the company has since had a policy of not carrying enough fuel to get to Havana.

Two years later, the airline was sold to Resorts International, which owned properties on Paradise Island. Donald Trump bought it in 1988 and sold it a few months later to Merv Griffin. The owner as of 1995 was Seth Atwood of United Capital Corporation of Illinois/Atwood Enterprises.

According to FlightSafe Consultants' Airline Safety Web site, Chalk's has had no known fatal accidents. Similarly, the NTSB database shows no fatal accidents for Chalk's since 1982, when the database started.

The airline had no comment after the crash.
Savipix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-12-2005, 22:37   #2
Airbus 330
ScanFlyer Dusty
 
Airbus 330's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Lillestrøm
Posts: 4,394
Default Replying to Topic '12 döda i flygolycka'

Mere her fra Dagbladet.no

http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2005/12/19/452685.html


Airbus 330.
Airbus 330 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-12-2005, 23:09   #3
Jumper G5
ScanFlyer Gold
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,185
Default Replying to Topic '12 döda i flygolycka'

Trist - dette er flyene som fikk vekket interessen for luftfart. Stod hver lørdag ved skipsrekken og så flyene lande og ta av mellom Port of Miami og Watson Island.
---
12 Said Killed in Plane Crash Off Miami

MIAMI BEACH, Fla. (AP) - A seaplane carrying at least 16 people crashed off
Miami Beach within sight of the city's high-rises Monday, killing at least
12 of those aboard, authorities said. Scuba divers and rescuers in
speedboats struggled to find survivors.

Because of witness reports of an explosion before the propeller-driven plane
went down, the FBI sent agents to assist in the investigation, but there
was no immediate indication of terrorism or sabotage, said Judy Orihuela,
spokeswoman for the FBI's Miami field office.

"It's too soon to say whether we are going to get involved," Orihuela said.
"We're just going to check it out."

The Chalk's Ocean Airways plane went down around 2:30 p.m. in a narrow
channel used by cruise ships, crashing on takeoff during a flight from Miami
to the island of Bimini in the Bahamas, Federal Aviation Administration
spokeswoman Laura Brown said.

Coast Guard Lt. Cmdr. Chris O'Neil said at least 12 bodies were recovered.
He said rescue crews saw no immediate signs of any survivors.

The Coast Guard said the twin-engine Turbine Mallard was carrying 14
passengers and two crew members, while the Fire Department said 17
passengers and two crew members were aboard.

Coast Guardsmen and emergency workers wearing protective suits hauled bodies
up from rescue boats. Law enforcement speedboats, divers and helicopters
took part in the search and were joined by others in private boats, on
personal watercraft and on surfboards.

A witness, Frank Amadeo, told WSVN-TV that he saw a huge explosion in the
sky and the plane fall behind a condominium tower on Biscayne Bay in Miami
Beach.

The Coast Guard said the cause of the crash was not immediately known, and
it could not confirm whether there had been an explosion. The National
Transportation Safety Board said it will investigate.

TV helicopter footage showed debris in Government Cut, the channel that
ships take past South Beach into the Port of Miami.

Chalk's Ocean Airways flies between Miami and the Bahamas, using planes that
take off and land on the water. Chalk's aircraft have been featured in TV
shows such as "Miami Vice." Its seaplanes take off in view of the port and
the multimillion-dollar homes that dot islands in the bay.

Founded by Arthur "Pappy" Chalk in 1919, the airline thrived during
Prohibition, taking bootleggers, their customers and customs agents to
Bimini. According to the airline, its most famous regular passenger was
Ernest Hemingway, who flew to Bimini to go big-game fishing.

One of its planes was hijacked to Cuba in 1974 and the company has since had
a policy of not carrying enough fuel to get to Havana.

Two years later, the airline was sold to Resorts International, which owned
properties on Paradise Island. Donald Trump bought it in 1988 and sold it a
few months later to Merv Griffin. The owner as of 1995 was Seth Atwood of
United Capital Corporation of Illinois/Atwood Enterprises.

According to its Web site, Chalk's operates 17-passenger Turbine Mallards.

According to FlightSafe Consultants' Airline Safety Web site, Chalk's has
had no known fatal accidents. Similarly, the NTSB database shows no fatal
accidents for Chalk's since 1982, when the database started.

The airline had no comment after the crash.
****************

Grumman Mallard Turboprop Down Off Miami Beach, PAX Deaths Confirmed

Conflicting Reports Of Death Toll, Survivors
There are confirmed reports of eight dead in the downing of a Chalks's Ocean
Airways Mallard as it was landing in Miami following a flight from the
Bahamas. Sixteen passengers and three crew members were aboard the aircraft,
according to Fox News.

A number of small boats and jetskis on the scene when the plane went down in
Government Cut assisted Coast Guard and Miami Fire Department efforts to
recover bodies from the accident scene. There was initially a large debris
field from the accident, although much of the field has been dispersed by
strengthening currents in the Cut.

Local reports say 12 bodies have recovered from an accident just off the
coast of Miami Beach, where a seaplane carrying as many as 18 onboard went
down at approximately 2:45 pm EST.

There are conflicting reports as to any survivors, with varying reports of
two to six passengers now at local hospitals.

Coast Guard CPO Dana Warr told CNN he witnessed the aircraft take off, and
nothing seemed unusual. He then saw a plume of black smoke, however, and
warning bells sounded.

"I get chills, thinking I saw this aircraft and everything seemed okay...
and then we're on a rescue effort," said Warr.

Three Coast Guard boats and choppers searching the water for additional
survivors. The aircraft went down in Government Cut, the channel that ships
take past South Beach into the Port of Miami.

The seaplane was flying for Chalk's Ocean Airways. According to the Chalk's
website, the airline was founded in 1939 and today flies a fleet of
PT-6-equipped Grumman G73 Mallards (above) to the Bahamas and Nassau from
Miami.
__________________
Man small - why fall?
Skies call - that's all!
Jumper G5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-12-2005, 23:12   #4
Jumper G5
ScanFlyer Gold
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,185
Default Replying to Topic '12 döda i flygolycka'

Også er det oppdateringer på www.miami.com utover kvelden, tenker jeg.
Chack's har to fatalities siden starten for 85 år siden, står det.
__________________
Man small - why fall?
Skies call - that's all!
Jumper G5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-12-2005, 23:50   #5
TG
ScanFlyer Blue
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 138
Default Replying to Topic '12 döda i flygolycka'



Det bildet på Dagbladet overlot ikke alt for mye til fantasien........
TG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-12-2005, 07:32   #6
CK
ScanFlyer Mile High Club
 
CK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Asker
Posts: 11,487
Default Replying to Topic '12 döda i flygolycka'

veldig trist - og tragisk. Jeg har selv fløyet Chalk's fra Miami til Bimini, og det var en STOR opplevelse. Ser at Miami Herald fokuserer på flyets alder (noe man alltid gjør når det er et gammelt fly, men aldri bryr seg om når det er et nytt fly som går ned). Ser at ATI nå har fått bekreftet at ulykkesflyet var N2969 - som jeg fløy i 2001. Jeg håper virkelig ike dette er slutten for Chalk's og Turbo Mallardene. Jeg hadde et lite håp om kanskje å komme tilbake til Bahamas i løpet av 2006 eller tidlig 2007 for å fly Turbo Mallard igjen... Her er bilder av maskinen i gladere dager
__________________
Christian H.F. Kamhaug
Flypodden.no

VOLARE NECESSE EST
CK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-12-2005, 08:00   #7
LN-SSL
ScanFlyer Molded
 
LN-SSL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,220
Default Replying to Topic '12 döda i flygolycka'

Quote:
Originally posted by TG




Det bildet på Dagbladet overlot ikke alt for mye til fantasien........
Triste greier dette...., og helt enig; det bildet på dagbladet.no kunne vi godt vært foruten vel....
__________________
\"Når du sitter der og rister i en flyvemaskin, og lengter ned mot jorden og kjæresten din - da er livet til stede....\"
LN-SSL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-12-2005, 08:39   #8
LN-MEH
ScanFlyer Molded
 
LN-MEH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Tromsø
Posts: 2,942
Default Replying to Topic '12 döda i flygolycka'

Tragisk,veldig tragisk.
__________________
Mad dog...
LN-MEH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-12-2005, 09:27   #9
ENKB
ScanFlyer Gold
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,036
Default Replying to Topic '12 döda i flygolycka'

Video her :
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/19/miami.crash/index.html
triste greier

ENKB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-12-2005, 09:29   #10
CK
ScanFlyer Mile High Club
 
CK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Asker
Posts: 11,487
Default Replying to Topic '12 döda i flygolycka'

det er andre fly som jeg har fløyet som senere har kraøsjet (nr. 1 var SAS MD87'n på Linate som jeg fløy OSL-MAN i 2000)
__________________
Christian H.F. Kamhaug
Flypodden.no

VOLARE NECESSE EST
CK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-12-2005, 10:26   #11
ANX
ScanFlyer Gold
 
ANX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: ENAN
Posts: 1,323
Default Replying to Topic '12 döda i flygolycka'

Veldig trist å miste en Mallard, selv om det var turbin.

Enig i at det makabre bildet burde Dagbladet ligget unna - har overhodet ingen nyhetsverdi.

BTW – En venn fortalte at den ene gang han fløy Chalks løp de slankeste fortest ut til flyet slik at de største ble sittende bakerst. Flyet gjorde flere forsøk på å komme ”på steppet”, men måtte takse inn og bytte om på pax slik at center of gravity kom dit det skulle. Ser ikke ut til å ha vært problemet denne gang.

Tja, CK, det skal vel en litt høyere prosent til for å kvalifisere som Jonas…
__________________
Intet er som musikken fra en stor stjernemotor...
ANX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-12-2005, 14:01   #12
Falcon
ÜberScanFlyer
 
Falcon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,981
Default Replying to Topic '12 döda i flygolycka'

Fæle greier, og som småbarnsfar blir jeg helt uvel av å tenke på at det var spedbarn ombord.

For meg ser det ut som om hele den brennende høyrevingen er fri fra flykroppen. Skal bli interessant å høre hva NTSB finner ut.
Falcon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-12-2005, 07:36   #13
CK
ScanFlyer Mile High Club
 
CK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Asker
Posts: 11,487
Default Replying to Topic '12 döda i flygolycka'

Chalks grounds Mallards three days after fatal crash
Joe Singleton, Washington DC (22Dec05, 22:22 GMT, 129 words)


A US National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) official confirms that Chalks Ocean Airways has grounded its fleet of Grumman Mallards following a December 19 crash near Miami Beach, Florida that killed 20 passengers and crew.

The grounding comes as the NTSB completes its initial on-site investigation.

NTSB investigators have found significant fatigue cracks in the crashed Mallard’s right wing spar, which reportedly detached just after takeoff and burst into flames.

The safety board’s spokesman also says the aircraft’s cockpit voice recorder was destroyed on impact, and that no data could be retrieved.

The fatigue cracks, the aircraft’s maintenance record, and the age of the aircraft - which was built in 1947 - will be major factors as the NTSB investigation continues at the safety board’s headquarters in Washington DC.


Source: Air Transport Intelligence news
__________________
Christian H.F. Kamhaug
Flypodden.no

VOLARE NECESSE EST
CK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-12-2005, 09:55   #14
ANX
ScanFlyer Gold
 
ANX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: ENAN
Posts: 1,323
Default Replying to Topic '12 döda i flygolycka'

Vingebjelken så SLIK ut.

NTSB sa at kun en spesiell undersøkelse ville avslørt sprekkene.

Har lagt en post i sjø-avd, siden denne tråden snart forsvinner bakover i rekkene (før den blir flyttet). Selv en moderator må få lov å ha juleferie.

__________________
Intet er som musikken fra en stor stjernemotor...
ANX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-12-2005, 10:56   #15
Bizflyer
FinalCall.travel/no
 
Bizflyer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Kristiansand
Posts: 11,303
Default Replying to Topic '12 döda i flygolycka'

Satt nettopp og leste om dette flyselskapet i siste nr av det tyske bladet Aero International. Trist sak!

BF
__________________
Siden 010106

There is only one way of flying! In Businessclass Åff kårs!
Bizflyer is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ny flygolycka med tyskar i norden, utanför Nybro (11/8/12) Bernoulli Flyforum 2 15-08-2012 08:54
11 döda i rysk flygkrasch Savipix Flyforum 2 01-11-2009 11:37
Två döda i flygkrasch på Midlanda flygplats k.s. Flyforum 0 15-06-2009 14:59
Två svenskar döda i flygolycka. Alf Flyforum 1 09-02-2006 11:24
Pilot hade problem med frun. Kunde lett till flygolycka Savipix Flyforum 3 03-10-2005 00:30


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 05:35.


Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright Foreningen Flyprat, Scanair og bidragsytere. Enkelte ikoner fra Famfamfam CC-BY.